|
|
| Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 1 post(s) |
Revman Zim
Common Sense Ltd
Nulli Secunda
251
   |
Posted - 2014.05.03 19:07:00 -
[1] - Quote
Eyrun Mangeiri wrote:T2 BPO gone = no more T2 stuff? Or how will it work?
Look up "INVENTION".
That is how it works, except for the few OLD RICH vets that were gifted BPO's by their Dev friends.
So, yeah. This should have been fixed A LONG TIME ago. It makes total sense for this to be addressed during a major industry rebalance. Yes their will be whining... but it is from the 1%ers... so **** them. |
Revman Zim
Common Sense Ltd
Nulli Secunda
251
|
Posted - 2014.05.03 19:14:00 -
[2] - Quote
Doc Fury wrote:Revman Zim wrote:Eyrun Mangeiri wrote:T2 BPO gone = no more T2 stuff? Or how will it work? Look up "INVENTION". That is how it works, except for the few OLD RICH vets that were gifted BPO's by their Dev friends. You know how we know you don't know how the BPO lottery worked.
http://www.eve-tribune.com/index.php?no=2_7&page=4
Yeah. and this is just what was made public. I am sure there were more hidden favoritism. |
Revman Zim
Common Sense Ltd
Nulli Secunda
252
|
Posted - 2014.05.03 19:36:00 -
[3] - Quote
Doc Fury wrote:Revman Zim wrote:Doc Fury wrote:Revman Zim wrote:Eyrun Mangeiri wrote:T2 BPO gone = no more T2 stuff? Or how will it work? Look up "INVENTION". That is how it works, except for the few OLD RICH vets that were gifted BPO's by their Dev friends. You know how we know you don't know how the BPO lottery worked. http://www.eve-tribune.com/index.php?no=2_7&page=4Yeah. and this is just what was made public. I am sure there were more hidden favoritism. Do you have any proof of such favoritism? I'm not saying it could not happen, but if you are going to make that kind of accusation without passing out tinfoil first, I'd suggest a better argument based on less unfounded jealousy and/or hysteria. That matter was addressed a long time ago. What about the 99.99% of the rest of the players who participated and who earned their BPOs fairly by grinding research agents and were lucky enough to draw one in the lottery. I had one once, and nobody gifted it to me or did me any favors.
Touched a nerve?
CCP knows that T2 BPO's are bad for the game. The majority of the player base knows it is a broken part of the game. They need to go, and I am glad that CCP is going to do this. Hopefully sooner rather than later.
And, I don't have to have a better argument or proof. This is the EVE online forums, not a court of law. |
Revman Zim
Common Sense Ltd
Nulli Secunda
253
|
Posted - 2014.05.03 21:06:00 -
[4] - Quote
Doc Fury wrote:mkint wrote:
Invention can never match a BPO. Production from a T2 BPO less than half as much build materials as an invention build, not even counting the cost of doing the invention itself. That sucks. But where it's completely broken is where a single T2 BPO can completely shut down all invention for a particular item, if you've got the right BPO. That's just not acceptable, no matter how much you paid for that BPO.
Exactly how many T2 BPOs do you believe there are in game, and which ones exactly can shut down all invention? If a single BPO can shut down all invention, what does it tell you about demand for that particular item? Have you actually done invention? A T2 BPO owner is limited on how many items he can make in a given time period. Inventors can create virtually unlimited runs that can be built simultaneously. If there is a lot of demand for Ishtars (for instance) an you build Ishtars is it more advantageous to be able to manufacture them using 1 manufacturing slot, or 10 at once? "That Sucks" sounds a lot like jealousy to me.
Making copies of a T2 BPO means the only limitation of items to be made is based on the number of manufacturing jobs you and your alts have skills for.
It is an unfair game mechanic. You are on the other side of course, because you are benefiting from the imbalance. Congrats. CCP is going to fix it. Great.
|
Revman Zim
Common Sense Ltd
Nulli Secunda
253
|
Posted - 2014.05.03 21:29:00 -
[5] - Quote
Doc Fury wrote:Revman Zim wrote:
Making copies of a T2 BPO means the only limitation of items to be made is based on the number of manufacturing jobs you and your alts have skills for.
It is an unfair game mechanic. You are on the other side of course, because you are benefiting from the imbalance. Congrats. CCP is going to fix it. Great.
Making copies takes longer per run than manufacturing. How does that disadvantage create an advantage? You keep saying it's unfair, but you have not demonstrated how. See jealousy. How do I benefit when I no longer own a T2 BPO and have not for many years?
I am not jealous. I don't do T2 manufacturing. You trying to derail the conversation with personal attacks is juvenile.
I just want the mechanics of EVE to be equal for all. This is an instance where it is NOT.
Note, I said MECHANICS. Not skills, not experience... etc. So don't try to derail and turn this into "making EVE easier". |
Revman Zim
Common Sense Ltd
Nulli Secunda
253
|
Posted - 2014.05.03 21:49:00 -
[6] - Quote
Doc Fury wrote:Revman Zim wrote:
I don't do T2 manufacturing.
I just want the mechanics of EVE to be equal for all. This is an instance where it is NOT.
Note, I said MECHANICS. Not skills, not experience... etc. So don't try to derail and turn this into "making EVE easier".
O.K. You admittedly don't do T2 manufacturing so you have no idea what you are talking about and have never done the math because you'd know that invention is more lucrative. Just because you *believe* something is bad due to simple ignorance or because someone else told you to believe so is not a good reason for CCP to take something away from another player because you can't have it too. Gotcha. All is clear now. Original synopsis affirmed.
Just because I don't do T2 manufacturing NOW. Does not mean i have NEVER done it. I have. I understand the mechanics and have done it all. I used to make T2 100mn ABs and MWDs on another toon.
Once again, you are trying to negate my observations, not with anything valuable, but with more attacks.
|
|
|
| |
|